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What Francoeur told Cerrone about OBP

By Ted Berg on Dec 17, 2009, 1:49 pm

His words, not mine:

A lot of statistical people seem to be a huge on-base percentage thing. And I don’t ever — it seems like 15 or 20 years ago it wasn’t a big deal. I don’t know. All of a sudden, it has become one.”

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  1. Peter
    Dec 17, 2009, 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #

    He’s so smart.

  2. Anit
    Dec 17, 2009, 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #

    Poor Frenchie.

  3. Catsmeat
    Dec 17, 2009, 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #

    Getting on-base, that’s false hustle.

  4. Max
    Dec 17, 2009, 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #

    “Absolutely, if nobody is on base, do I want to get something going? Yeah, you wanna be selective and see what you can do. But, if there’s a guy on third with one out, I’m just trying to hit the ball to second base or to the shortstop if he’s back and get the run in. And, if that causes my OBP to be 10 points lower than, you know, I’m not that concerned about it.”

    OBP with RISP: .333
    OBP with bases empty: .309

    Maybe he should pretend somebody’s on base.

  5. cjmulrain
    Dec 17, 2009, 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #

    Yea, taking walks and being patient is really new, nobody ever focused on it until moneyball. That’s why Ted Williams and Babe Ruth had such low OBP’s and never looked to walk. Wait, what?

  6. Gil Reich
    Dec 19, 2009, 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #

    So how’s that strategy working for him? With runners in scoring position and fewer than 2 outs he hit .216 with a strikeout every at bats (22 of 88). Even if walks were meaningless, he should change strategies so his scouting report stops reading “0-2 when he steps in the box.”

    • Gil Reich
      Dec 19, 2009, 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #

      (that should say a strikeout every 4 at bats)